(10:02) <moovida> Evening/morning folks
(10:02) <moovida> 19.00 o'clock, meeting time
(10:03) <moovida> Anyone around?
(10:06) <rgould> yup
(10:06) <rgould> sorry previous meeting went late
(10:06) <rgould> jesse's coming
(10:06) <Jesse_Eichar77> hi
(10:06) <Jesse_Eichar77> we ready to go?
(10:06) <moovida> hi Richard
(10:06) <moovida> yup, ready
(10:07) <Jesse_Eichar77> what's the agenda?
(10:07) <Jesse_Eichar77> 1- Code Sprint
(10:07) <Jesse_Eichar77> 2- SDK
(10:07) <Jesse_Eichar77> 3- updates
(10:07) <Jesse_Eichar77> anything else you want to touch on?
(10:07) <moovida> 4) icons and themes 5) premade widgets
(10:08) <moovida> just some questions
(10:08) <moovida> any other?
(10:09) <moovida> so: Code Sprint
(10:09) <moovida> I think you guys from refraction have home field advantage on this
(10:10) <moovida> so I'm listening
(10:10) <Jesse_Eichar77> haha
(10:11) <Jesse_Eichar77> So I've added wiki page for suggestions. We'll collect suggestions for a few weeks and then we can choose one.
(10:11) <Jesse_Eichar77> ( or a few).
(10:11) <Jesse_Eichar77> and make a plan for how we can accomplish the goal.
(10:11) <moovida> yes, I think that will take time
(10:11) <moovida> but from the organizative point of view?
(10:11) <Jesse_Eichar77> I will send a message to the lists again with the WIKI page.
(10:12) <moovida> you say we can exploit refraction's place for the weekend?
(10:12) <Jesse_Eichar77> Oh right.
(10:12) <moovida> so the sprint won't go further?
(10:12) <Jesse_Eichar77> the official code sprint on Friday is at some place downtown.
(10:12) <moovida> or
(10:12) <Jesse_Eichar77> A hotel or something that will have computers for us.
(10:13) <Jesse_Eichar77> For the weekend we can have a room at the Refractions Office but computers will be more limitted. So if you have a laptop make sure you bring it.
(10:13) <moovida> yes, own pc would be better
(10:14) <moovida> I'm just thinking that after a week of conference some people will be out of energies
(10:14) <moovida> mainly those who are helping out
(10:14) <moovida> don't know, never did this
(10:14) <Jesse_Eichar77> It is true. But since the official sprint is Friday then it makes sense to just continue it.
(10:14) <moovida> conference + sprint
(10:15) <Jesse_Eichar77> Rather than start before the conference then take a 4 day break and do one more day...
(10:15) <Jesse_Eichar77> Or am I wrong?
(10:15) <moovida> alright, yes
(10:15) <moovida> so the idea is to go until Sunday
(10:15) <moovida> ?
(10:15) <Jesse_Eichar77> Yes.
(10:15) <Jesse_Eichar77> For those who can.
(10:15) <Jesse_Eichar77> I plan on being there on Sunday.
(10:16) <Jesse_Eichar77> I think we're done on that
(10:16) <moovida> yes, ok
(10:17) * Jesse_Eichar77 changes topic to '1- Code Sprint 2-SDK 3-Updates 4-icons and Themes 5- premade widgets'
(10:17) <Jesse_Eichar77> sdk
(10:17) <Jesse_Eichar77> how is it doing so far.
(10:17) <Jesse_Eichar77> just looking for comments.
(10:17) <moovida> for me it is great
(10:18) <moovida> I wasn't able to exploit the jts and so on sources
(10:18) <moovida> I unzipped them
(10:18) <Jesse_Eichar77> You have access to the GT and JTS source code ?
(10:18) <moovida> I found them inside some folder
(10:18) <moovida> i thought they had to be unzipped and added to the source folder list
(10:18) <Jesse_Eichar77> You shouldn't have to unzip them
(10:18) <moovida> aaaaaarghh
(10:19) <moovida> in fact it didn't work
(10:19) <Jesse_Eichar77> It worked for me on my mac
(10:19) <moovida> so what should I have done?
(10:19) <moovida> nothing?
(10:19) <moovida> in that case it didn't work...
(10:19) <Jesse_Eichar77> When you target that directory for the SDK it should pic up those sources
(10:19) <Jesse_Eichar77> Ok I'm not done yet
(10:19) <moovida> nooooooo....
(10:20) <moovida> it should have done it automagically?
(10:20) <Jesse_Eichar77> yes
(10:20) <moovida> wow...
(10:20) <moovida> but I'm sorry it didn't
(10:20) <moovida> but I will do some more tests
(10:20) <moovida> I'm yet doing a bunch of errors with the plugin development
(10:21) <Jesse_Eichar77> I'll take another look
(10:21) <Jesse_Eichar77> It was working for me but maybe the win32 release had problems.
(10:21) <Jesse_Eichar77> I'll send another message out when I get it going for win32
(10:22) <moovida> alright, I just tried a reload and so but no way to get them into the sources
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> ok
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> next
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> Updates
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> me first
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> Working on SDK
(10:22) <Jesse_Eichar77> SDK Nightly
(10:23) <Jesse_Eichar77> Verifying that Index Shapefile is indexing efficiently.
(10:23) <Jesse_Eichar77> and looking for a memory leak for edit tools
(10:23) <Jesse_Eichar77> you?
(10:23) * moovida you is moovida?
(10:24) <moovida> I'm back fulltime on the jgrass stuff, finally
(10:24) <moovida> rendering of rasters is at 98%, some optimizations left I know
(10:24) <Jesse_Eichar77> cool welcome back
(10:25) <moovida> now I'm putting a test module into udig
(10:25) <moovida> to be able to understand what i'm missing
(10:25) <moovida> and I miss some things
(10:25) <moovida> which I will then ask in point 4 and 5
(10:25) <moovida> console work is going on
(10:26) <moovida> should have a first test version in 3 weeks or so
(10:26) <moovida> that's all from my side
(10:26) <Jesse_Eichar77> Any one else?
(10:27) <Jesse_Eichar77> Cory is merging all changes done to 1.1.x to trunk
(10:27) <chorner> no
(10:27) <Jesse_Eichar77> No not anymore?
(10:27) <chorner> i'm continuing this work today
(10:27) <Jesse_Eichar77> ok
(10:27) <moovida> what will that mean?
(10:28) <moovida> I mean, will udig go trunc in near future?
(10:28) <Jesse_Eichar77> Some time back we branched 1.1.x off trunk.
(10:28) <Jesse_Eichar77> We were keeping the branches more or less in sync
(10:28) <Jesse_Eichar77> but at one point some of the commits failed and I got frusterated and stopped merging my changes to trunk.
(10:28) <Jesse_Eichar77> Now Cory is going to try to clean up my mess.
(10:29) <Jesse_Eichar77> Is that still on the plan Cory?
(10:29) <rgould> poor cory!
(10:29) * moovida fears branching nightmares
(10:29) <Jesse_Eichar77> no kidding.
(10:29) <chorner> yes – sorry, don't know why i said "no" above... misread
(10:29) <moovida>
(10:29) <Jesse_Eichar77> lol
(10:29) <Jesse_Eichar77> I owe you a beer Cory. At least one.
(10:29) <chorner>
(10:29) <Jesse_Eichar77> Maybe a case ?
(10:30) <Jesse_Eichar77> ok 4 - Icons and Themes
(10:30) <moovida> alright, I'm thinking more and more on the icon problem
(10:30) <moovida> udig has been easy with the eclipse icon set and the forcing them to mean raster and vector and point
(10:31) <moovida> but what the hell should I do with 50 modules that need an icon with some picture on it?
(10:32) <moovida> they would look strange in the beautiful eclipse icon picture
(10:32) <moovida> HELP!!!
(10:32) <Jesse_Eichar77> uh oh you're asking me for help designing icons?
(10:32) <moovida> no,no
(10:32) <moovida> obviously not
(10:32) <rgould> you mean you want to re-use one (or more) icons across multiple plug-ins?
(10:32) <Jesse_Eichar77> phew that would be a disaster...
(10:33) <moovida> no, the question goes back a bit
(10:33) <moovida> when we finally come with jgrass into the udig release
(10:33) <moovida> we will have to think on what to do
(10:34) <moovida> so for our people we will need a mixed branding, because they want to have JGrass written on it
(10:34) <moovida> and we will need to keep our iconset
(10:34) <moovida> but alltogether it can loose some of the professional look udig has
(10:35) <moovida> because I'm also no icon artist
(10:35) <moovida> so I just wanted to know what you think about it
(10:35) <moovida> and if someone has ideas
(10:35) <Jesse_Eichar77> Well for now you have to use the icons you have.
(10:36) <rgould> we almost need a theme engine for uDig
(10:36) <Jesse_Eichar77> Can you make a call for help to the JGrass and uDig communities to help redesign the icons for you?
(10:36) <Jesse_Eichar77> make a wiki page with the old icons
(10:36) <moovida> yes, I think this should be
(10:36) <Jesse_Eichar77> and they can add their new icons to the same wiki page
(10:36) <moovida> yes, I will post the svg of the actual artwork done
(10:36) <Jesse_Eichar77> then you can add them to your plugin as they are finished.
(10:37) <Jesse_Eichar77> SDK update... again. (sorry)
(10:37) <moovida> in my dreams it would be great like this, but in reality I don't know one single person able to do nice professional icons
(10:37) <Jesse_Eichar77> seems the upload failed so the old SDK is online
(10:38) <moovida> old means rc10
(10:38) <Jesse_Eichar77> no a previous upload
(10:38) <Jesse_Eichar77> the "good" sdk is still on my laptop
(10:39) <Jesse_Eichar77> uploading now.
(10:39) <Jesse_Eichar77> I'll send a email when its done.
(10:39) <moovida> your servers are extremely slow
(10:39) <moovida> I don't think it's just the distance
(10:40) <moovida> I sometimes think of create a mirror, for Italian day use
(10:40) <Jesse_Eichar77> I think it probably is. THe server is not on the island that I'm on and I can download an SDK in about 5 minutes.
(10:41) <moovida> One question to point 5
(10:41) <moovida> are the pre-made widgets to get layernames or mapnames in the catalog?
(10:42) <moovida> example: I start my module, a dialog opens
(10:42) <moovida> and there are two textfields and two browse buttons
(10:42) <moovida> I should be able to click browse and can browse all the available rasters
(10:43) <moovida> or just all the available vectors
(10:43) <moovida> I mean
(10:43) <moovida> without having to drag and drop from somewere
(10:43) <moovida> or go through the whole import wizard
(10:43) <Jesse_Eichar77> So if i understand you want a browse that browses the catalog?
(10:43) <rgould> i'm surprised we don't have one already
(10:44) <moovida> yes, but something that shows only certain resources
(10:44) <moovida> If someone has to choose a raster
(10:44) <moovida> he shouldn't even see the vectors
(10:44) <moovida> i feel that is important, because else everyone will create it's own
(10:45) <moovida> and again the gui gets a disaster
(10:45) <Jesse_Eichar77> There isnt a widget for that yet.
(10:45) <moovida> I will start to create the ones I need, then we talk
(10:45) <Jesse_Eichar77> sounds good
(10:46) <moovida> about them and how they should be
(10:46) <moovida> alright, good then
(10:46) <moovida> I have one question for Richard
(10:46) <rgould> hi!
(10:46) <moovida>
(10:46) <moovida> the menubuilder
(10:46) * rgould just read those emails
(10:46) <moovida> did you read the post
(10:46) <moovida> ok, perfect
(10:46) <rgould> menuBuilder extension point is not as you would expect
(10:47) <rgould> it is an over-ride
(10:47) <rgould> of the default udig MenuBuilder
(10:47) <moovida> the ActionBarAdvisor
(10:47) <moovida> or how it is called?
(10:47) <rgould> if you want to add an action to the menus or toolbars
(10:47) <moovida> you mean that one?
(10:47) <rgould> mmm i'm not sure?
(10:48) <rgould> i would use the tool API (as it seems you have done) or the eclipse actionSets extension point
(10:48) <moovida> Adding action is ok, but I miss that registering method
(10:48) <moovida> That menubuilder is mandatory
(10:49) <rgould> ok I think I may be totally confused
(10:49) <moovida> since by that we are able to add whatever to the toolbar
(10:49) <moovida> sorry, come again
(10:50) <rgould> you are using the net.refractions.udig.ui.menuBuilders extension point?
(10:50) <moovida> i wanted to, but I then didn't
(10:50) <moovida> because i wanted to add an action (eclipse, not udig) to the bar
(10:50) <rgould> yup
(10:51) <moovida> I created the action and would have used the two methods
(10:51) <moovida> in the builder
(10:51) <moovida> but usually you do that by instantiating the actions in the makeSomething method
(10:51) <moovida> and calll register(action)
(10:52) <moovida> which is supplied by the parent class
(10:52) <moovida> which Menubuilder do not have
(10:52) <rgould> one sec, I'm just trying to follow along in the source code
(10:53) <moovida> Alright, while you look, I try to resume what I learned from the RCP book
(10:53) <moovida> page 84
(10:53) <moovida> shows how actions can be added to the ApplicationActionBarAdvisor
(10:54) <moovida> method : fillMenuBar
(10:54) <moovida> like your
(10:54) <moovida> but makeActions is missing, which they define to be absolutely required
(10:54) <moovida> so I didn't understand what to do
(10:55) <rgould> makeActions is missing from net.refractions.udig.ui.MenuBuilder?
(10:56) <moovida> yes
(10:56) <moovida> and also register
(10:57) <moovida> I think they are both needed
(10:57) <rgould> oh, is there an org.eclipse.*.MenuBuilder class?
(10:58) <moovida> No, sorry, wait a second
(10:58) <moovida> I check the names
(10:58) <moovida> one sec
(10:58) <rgould> because udig.ui.MenuBuilder is an interface that was extracted from udig.ui.UDIGMenuBuilder
(10:58) <rgould> so that other uDig-based apps could supply their own MenuBuilder Implementations
(10:59) <moovida> I'm not sure we are talking about the same, but I will try to go on
(10:59) <moovida> ActionBarAdvisor delegates to MenuBuilder
(11:00) <moovida> right
(11:00) <moovida> ?
(11:00) <moovida> If yes it (perhaps) needs to delegate also protected void register(IAction action) {
(11:00) <rgould> yup
(11:01) <moovida> and protected void makeActions(IWorkbenchWindow window) {
(11:01) <moovida> where would you create the actions else?
(11:01) <moovida> I would do that in the cosntructor
(11:02) <moovida> but the I would not know how to regsiter
(11:02) <moovida> * Registers the given action with the key binding service
(11:02) <moovida> * (by calling

),
(11:02) <moovida> * and adds it to the list of actions to be disposed when the window is closed.
(11:02) <moovida>
(11:02) <moovida>
(11:03) <rgould> hmm, ok I think I understand
(11:04) <rgould> ( i don't have a udig development environment available at this moment so I can't do anything right now)
(11:04) <moovida> what do you mean?
(11:06) <rgould> nevermind - do you want to create a jira task for this?
(11:06) <moovida> I'm not sure. What happens when we do not register?
(11:07) <moovida> I mean, the builder is good, because I can add comboboxes and whatever to the bar
(11:07) <moovida> which sometimes is really good
(11:07) <moovida> you think we need to register?
(11:08) <rgould> i am not sure
(11:08) <moovida> If you want I can create it, so I learn to post bug requests on JIra
(11:08) <moovida>
(11:08) <rgould> (the UDIGMenuBuilder doesn't seem to care about it)
(11:08) <rgould> (but if I am going to change it,i'll have to change it later)
(11:09) <moovida> yes, the javadoc talks about keybinding service
(11:09) <moovida> I will try to create an action that way
(11:09) <moovida> and see if it works
(11:09) <rgould> ok
(11:09) <moovida> then we talk again
(11:10) <rgould> is there a reason you are not using the actionSets extension point?
(11:10) <moovida> I guess because I'm not at that part of the book yet... My knowledge is a bit limited...
(11:11) <moovida> what would that do?
(11:11) <moovida> or better, I will have a look at it, so i don't bother you too long
(11:11) <rgould> ok no worries
(11:11) <rgould> it may not be what you want, but take a lookt at it
(11:12) <moovida> alright, thanks
(11:12) <rgould> it is how a lot of toolbar items are declared
(11:12) <rgould> (and menu items)
(11:12) <rgould> it is not really a simple api, so feel free to poke me with questions
(11:12) <moovida> big mistake, I will
(11:13) <rgould> haha!
(11:13) <moovida> I noticed I have the RC10 sdk which Jesse says is not there... what am I missing?
(11:14) <moovida> Jesse, why are you saying the rc10 is not there?
(11:15) <moovida> alright, we can go on on the mailinglist about that
(11:15) <moovida> meeting is overtime
(11:15) <moovida> any other thing left?
(11:15) * moovida guesses not
(11:16) <rgould> the upload did not finish
(11:16) <rgould> so he is uploading it again